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Kyle Watson
Episode 45 · August 14, 2026 · 53 min
Kyle was one of the first strangers to join Unrationed, and this episode is a look back at what he was actually walking through when he found it: staring at himself in a literal bathroom mirror on January 1st, 2022, not liking the guy he sa…
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- 44Glen Van PeskiGlenn Van Peski, ultralight backpacker, accidental founder of Gossamer Gear, and author of Take Less, Do More, joins Evan and Joshua for a conversation that feels as light and unhurried as his pack. Glenn walks through the core idea of the …August 7, 2026 · 56 min
- 43David CallahanDavid Callahan, co-CEO of Ultra Sign Up, joins Evan and Danny to talk about how he and his partner Jay stumbled into acquiring the platform in 2020, closing the deal at separate picnic tables with masks on while the entire industry was shut…July 31, 2026 · 54 min
- 42On FightingJoshua kicks off the episode fresh off his first Brazilian jiu-jitsu class, and what started as a conversation about grappling quickly opens into a wide-ranging exploration of fighting across every domain of life. The guys wrestle with why …July 24, 2026 · 52 min
- 41Paul WatkinsPaul Watkins, author and keynote speaker behind the Tao of Hard Things, joins Evan and Tony to dig into why chosen hard things matter and what separates the ones that build you from the ones that break you. Paul walks through his own recent…July 17, 2026 · 57 min
- 40First TracksEvan, Danny, and Joshua open with wild moments from the week, then dig into Boyd Vardy's book Lion Tracker's Guide to Life and what it means to follow first tracks in your own life. The conversation centers on consequence, risk, and how a l…July 10, 2026 · 45 min
- 39Shaun BemisShaun Bemis grew up in suburban Indianapolis, left college after September 11th to serve twenty years in the Navy, and spent the back half of his career running intelligence operations with the SEAL teams. After retiring, he discovered ultr…July 3, 2026 · 50 min
- 38Utopia Backyard UltraTony is running a Backyard Ultramarathon this weekend. Same 4.15-mile loop, every hour, until one person is left standing. Evan, Joshua, Pat, and Danny gather to talk through the preparation, the strategy, and the psychology of not quitting…June 26, 2026 · 52 min
- 37What's Your Rice?Episode 37 — What's Your Rice? In Jiro Dreams of Sushi, apprentices spend years learning one thing: how to cook rice. This episode is about finding your rice — the one skill worth doing exceptionally well, every day, for years — and why tha…June 19, 2026 · 38 min
- 36Threshold GuardiansEvan, Joshua, and newest team member Danny Kirk reflect on a recent rim-to-rim-to-rim traverse of the Grand Canyon — and the conversations that came out of it. They dig into why we seek out hard, uncomfortable experiences, what happens to a…June 12, 2026 · 49 min
- 35Beyond OurselvesIn this episode Evan , Joshua, and Tony pick up where they left off — exploring the spiritual dimension of growth and what it means to acknowledge that something beyond us shapes our work, relationships, and lives. They share personal stori…November 21, 2025 · 36 min
- 34Thresholds at HomeIn this episode of The Unrationed Podcast, Evan, Joshua, and Tony explore why crossing thresholds at home often feels harder than running a race or tackling a physical challenge. They unpack the complexity of growth in relationships, parent…November 13, 2025 · 47 min
- 33The Right PeopleIn this episode of The Unrationed Podcast, Evan, Joshua, and Tony talk about the people you spend your time with—how they shape your habits, your mindset, and your life. They unpack what it means to surround yourself with men who push you t…November 6, 2025 · 42 min
- 32Comfort is ExpensiveIn this episode of The Unrationed Podcast, hosts Evan, Joshua, and Tony explore the idea that comfort is expensive, not just financially, but spiritually, relationally, and generationally. They discuss how modern life makes it easy to avoid…October 29, 2025 · 42 min
- 31Thresholds: The First Step OverAfter two years away, The Unrationed Podcast returns with Evan , Joshua Aranda, and Tony. In this episode, “Thresholds: The First Step Over,” they explore moments of transition — from fatherhood to business to personal growth — and what it …October 9, 2025 · 41 min
- 30We Ran the Hardest Race of Our Lives.Tony, Evan, and Josh recap Ring the Springs along with three other men who joined them in their challenge. Our new site is up! Join your tribe at Unrationed.com.…July 10, 2023 · 1 hr 3 min
- 29"Not Getting Better's Not an Option"Evan, Tony, and Josh talk about status quo and how risk plays a key role in driving growth and self-development. If any of today's discussion resonated with you, we would love to invite you to take part in Wild32, our monthly 28-day challen…May 15, 2023 · 23 min
- 28Thoughts on Honoring TransformationEvan, Tony, and Josh catch up after the first week of Ring the Springs and dive into deeper concepts of exposure, pain, and what it means to have tough hands. Step into the wild at wildsandthewoods.com.…May 9, 2023 · 51 min
- 27The Compass Playbook w. Christie AlbrechtTony's sister, Christie, joins the boys in breaking down The Compass Playbook, a clever tool for understanding what exactly makes up Wilds and using it to clarify key organizational aspects. Click here to download Mission Matters Group's Th…May 1, 2023 · 1 hr 14 min
- 26What's With the Cat Dreams?Evan, Tony, and Josh spend time deciphering recent dreams and the wild moments they experienced there. Step into the wild at wildsandthewoods.com.…April 24, 2023 · 33 min
- 25Choosing to Enter the WildernessIn this Season Two premiere, Evan, Josh, and Tony discuss spiritual and emotional growth through harrowing challenges - specifically long-distance running and how they're preparing for the longest runs of their lives. Want to get involved? …April 16, 2023 · 47 min
